Stupid AI

The other morning in the course of my daily search, I came across this as part of an “AI Overview” on a Google search:

• The Saga of Recluce: A popular fantasy series that follows Rahl, a young apprentice who becomes a powerful mage

As those who’ve read the Recluce books know, Rahl is the protagonist of Natural Ordermage, and the Recluce Saga isn’t about just one protagonist. In fact, Rahl is the ninth protagonist (in publication order) of the saga.

The summary also states that I attended Williams College, which is slightly misleading because I graduated as well as attended.

Since that first occurrence, that same “AI Overview,” or one similar, has reoccurred on several occasions.

Obviously, such errors irritate me, but, more than that, they disturb me because an artificial intelligence (supposedly) is providing incorrect information at the same time that Google is touting its AI capabilities.

I didn’t even ask for a summary in my search. It was provided unasked for. So…not only is the information thrust upon me, but it’s wrong, and likely provided incorrectly to other searchers as well.

I’m also fairly certain that other erroneous information is being supplied by other AI overviews on differing subjects, simply because these AI overviews are based on internet-posted information, much of which isn’t fact checked in any way, but such “overviews” lend a credence to dubious or erroneous “facts.”

I wonder if DeepSeek would do any better.

17 thoughts on “Stupid AI”

  1. KevinJ says:

    Luckily, we’re in the Misinformation Age, where accuracy no longer matters, so results like this are perfect responses! No one needs to know anything, they can just believe whatever they want, and it’s so good to see Big Tech doing their part by crafting AIs that can’t get anything right, but just maybe can confirm existing biases!

    (Removing sarcasm hat now…)

  2. Daze says:

    The large language models erroneously referred to as AI just look for the combination of words most likely to occur on the totality of all digitised writing in English. They don’t do nuance or complexity. So, if Rahl is the most referenced (or the most recent of equal references) that’s what the LLM supplies. In particular, if an incorrect statement is more frequently stated than a correct version, that’s what the LLM supplies- and in so doing probably increases the frequency count of the incorrect version, thus firming it up in the’minds’ of itself and all the other LLMs. They are machines for propagating urban myths and conspiracy theories

    1. Daze says:

      a PS example: the IBM AI for putting up update messages on coverage of the Wimbledon tennis tournament: nice constrained remit, should be a doddle. BUT tennis players have two important numbers associated with them – their ranking in the world and their seeding for the tournament: often the same, but if (eg) the #2 drops out everyone else moves up one on the seeds. The IBM AI rarely associated the right number with each word: it doesn’t know what the words mean, it just looks at how often the number and the word are together. The frequency count thing also means that if a player was #1 ranked for a year, but last week dropped to #5, there are a lot more references to #1 in its ‘mind’ …

  3. James Sedgwick says:

    When I ask Deepseek to “summarize the saga of recluse” I get as a final summation paragraph:

    Overall Summary:

    The Saga of Recluce is a richly detailed fantasy series that delves into the philosophical and ethical implications of power, magic, and societal structure. Through its diverse cast of characters and non-linear narrative, it explores how individuals and societies grapple with the forces of Order and Chaos, often revealing that neither is inherently good or evil—it is their use and balance that matter. The series is known for its deep world-building, complex characters, and thought-provoking themes.

    1. That’s a damned sight better than what Google comes up with.

  4. Solon says:

    Just for fun, asked ChatGPT to write the first chapter of a new Recluce novel (with some additional parameters):

    From The Balance of Iron and Order by Master Smith Lurgan of Fairhaven, 1193 AF

    “A smith does not shape iron through strength alone, nor does a mage shape Order through mere will. Both require precision, patience, and an understanding of balance. To strike too hard is to shatter. To strike too soft is to weaken. In this, as in all things, Order endures only where discipline prevails.”

    Chapter One: The Blacksmith’s Path
    Garric brought the hammer down hard, the impact ringing through the smithy. He didn’t much care for finesse—so long as the iron held its shape and did what it was meant to do, that was enough. His father, of course, disagreed.

    “You’re favoring your right again,” Veylor said from the doorway, arms crossed over his chest. The smith’s apron he wore was old, stained with years of work. “You think the metal won’t notice?”

    Garric grunted and flipped the horseshoe with the tongs, setting it back against the anvil. “Seems fine to me.”

    His father only shook his head. “It’s not about what seems fine. It’s about what is fine.”

    Garric sighed, adjusting his grip before bringing the hammer down again. He figured he had maybe a glass before midday, and he was already thinking about the cool green berry juice waiting at home. Nothing better after a morning in the forge.

    The sound of hooves outside broke through the steady rhythm of hammering. Garric turned slightly, catching sight of a rider slowing to a stop in front of the smithy. The man wore the black-and-white of Recluce, his cloak marked with the sigil of Fairhaven.

    Veylor straightened, wiping his hands on his apron as the rider dismounted. “What brings a Council man out this far?”

    The rider’s gaze settled on Garric. “Garric, son of Veylor?”

    Garric set the hammer aside, feeling a pit settle in his stomach. He had a bad feeling about this.

    “He is,” Veylor said.

    The rider nodded once. “You are summoned to the Council.”

    Garric exhaled. There went his afternoon.

    And, most likely, his future.

      1. KevinJ says:

        Yeah.

        Who wants crappy imitation Modesitt?????

      2. Solon says:

        Apologies! Was attempting to poke fun and would imagine this is much the same (or perhaps better) than the multitudes of self-published works on Amazon.

        You are one of my favorite authors and your works have always been a good topic to connect with my father who also reads your works and blog. Even better, we both pre/purchase our own copies new.

        We also met briefly in a hall at Sasquan about 10 years ago. You were very kind and generous with your time. Thank you again for the Dorrin copper coins.

        Anyway, I don’t think we have to fear AI replacing you but perhaps some of our elected officials?

        1. Frightening as the thought is, AI might(?) be better than some elected officials.

          1. Solon says:

            Considering corporations are to an extent considered persons… it’s only a few mental and/or legal leaps to consider one or the other capable holding office. In the case of corporations, certainly more honest to just have the source of contributions run for office directly.

            More pressing is AI is likely already being utilized to write legislation and policy. So perhaps in that sense, we already elected one?

            Strangely, I find that comforting with this current administration. 🙂

    1. Lourain says:

      It’s better than some of the stuff on Amazon (I love the samples…prevents a lot of disappointment).

  5. Ryan Schmitz says:

    I find the so-called A.I. almost useless (as well as autocorrect that keeps changing words I intentionally wrote and spelled correctly, forcing me to constantly and needlessly correct simple posts). Before A.I. searching the internet was far more efficient. Now, I find it almost impossible to search anything and get factual information—or even find what I am specifically searching for. And so many people use A.I. to make posts on social media, all in the same (and quite obvious) monotonous style. It’s more than a little frustrating. And the imitation Modesitt is no bueno.

    1. Solon says:

      “And so many people use A.I. to make posts on social media, all in the same (and quite obvious) monotonous style. It’s more than a little frustrating.”

      R. Hamilton?

      1. Wine Guy says:

        Ouch.

        Funny.

        But… ouch.

  6. Tom says:

    Perhaps AI is not stupid. Maybe it is confused (by the data it has been fed) and susceptible to becoming a “machine(s) for propagating urban myths and conspiracy theories” as we are? At least according to a long article in the Atlantic Magazine: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/

  7. Silentsword says:

    We’re seeing this in the legal world, too. Wrong cases, non-existent cases, arguments that a case says what it manifestly does not. Some of it among the usual cranks and tryhards and scam artists who think AI can substitute for an actual lawyer, yes. Or from people desperate for any fig leaf to justify why their personal position is The Law.

    But also from actual lawyers with years of experience. Who jumped on the idea that utilizing AI to write briefs and motions and contracts so that they could log more billables. Or that they could use AI to take the place of their paralegals and assistants.

    This has resulted in judges giving orders to those same lawyers that read like what our first-year legal research and writing profs required of us for the first couple of assignments: “With your briefs, you must submit the complete text of the cases for all citations. You must quote in full, with pinpoint cites. I will be checking your work”.

    Meanwhile, some state bars and bar associations continue to push AI as “the next big thing” and that it’s ready for prime time *right now*. The bar association for one of my states sends near-daily emails extolling the virtues of AI in legal practice.

    And those of us actually in the field have gotten very good at recognizing AI-slop-pretending-to-be-a-contract (or brief) and immediately rejecting it. And rolling our eyes at yet another person who has allowed laziness to corrupt their brains.

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